Session Start: Wed Apr 28 00:00:00 2010
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'>
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[09:29] * sonicrules1234 wonders if anybody is here :P
[09:29] <@BC_Programming> I am
[09:29] <sonicrules1234> Yay
[09:29] <@BC_Programming> now stop making so much noise
[09:29] <sonicrules1234> Lol
[09:29] <@BC_Programming> it's hard to tell who is saying what
[09:29] <@BC_Programming> heh
[09:29] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Do you ever work with select() in sockets?
[09:30] <@BC_Programming> ?
[09:30] <@BC_Programming> sockets?
[09:30] <sonicrules1234> Guess not...
[09:30] <@BC_Programming> how do you mean?
[09:30] <@BC_Programming> sounds like a C lib routine to me
[09:30] <sonicrules1234> A socket is a tcp connection
[09:30] <@BC_Programming> yeah I know that
[09:30] <@BC_Programming> what's select()?
[09:31] <sonicrules1234> select() is a function that tells you from a list of sockets which ones are ready to receive something
[09:31] <sonicrules1234> Or send
[09:32] <@BC_Programming> oh, well I've never worked with that
[09:32] <sonicrules1234> Dang
[09:32] <@BC_Programming> I tend to avoid working with sockets or network code at all, since it's so bloody unpredictable
[09:32] <sonicrules1234> Ah
[09:32] <sonicrules1234> Everything I code has network stuff in it :P
[09:33] <@BC_Programming> well I found the docs on it
[09:33] <@BC_Programming> http://docs.python.org/library/select.html
[09:33] <sonicrules1234> Yes
[09:33] <@BC_Programming> IIRC you're using python
[09:33] <sonicrules1234> I know how to use it
[09:33] <sonicrules1234> Yes
[09:33] <@BC_Programming> well then what's the problem :P
[09:33] <sonicrules1234> I was just wondering whether a torrent client that used just select and no threads would be fast enough
[09:34] <@BC_Programming> threads are for lazy people
[09:34] <sonicrules1234> What do you use?
[09:34] <@BC_Programming> I don't use python, but it's possible to "emulate" multiple threads in VB
[09:34] <@BC_Programming> mostly because using multiple threads crashes too much
[09:35] <@BC_Programming> most people will use multiple threads so that they can have a responsive UI while their doing something else
[09:35] <sonicrules1234> Yeah
[09:35] <@BC_Programming> but.... I guess for a torrent client you would either need multiple threads or really good management of what is going on
[09:35] <sonicrules1234> I'm wanting to use them so I can have multiple connections going at once
[09:35] <sonicrules1234> Yeah
[09:36] <sonicrules1234> Hm
[09:37] <sonicrules1234> I'll probably just try it without threads first, just to see if it works
[09:37] <@BC_Programming> my search program only uses a single thread, but it can search multiple folders at once, because each search object spawns another search object for each folder, and then tells each one "ok, tell me when you find a file" and then when they callback to it it returns it to it's callback, and so on... and eventually the actual search program receives it.
[09:38] <@BC_Programming> somehow each object is able to execute independently, not sure how, since the whole thing is a single thread
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[09:38] <sonicrules1234> Probably a different process
[09:38] <@BC_Programming> no
[09:38] <@BC_Programming> I would have had to start it myself then
[09:38] <@BC_Programming> it's a DLL... so it's in-process
[09:39] <@BC_Programming> but- out of process stuff is a good way of doing it as well, if I wanted to make it truly seperate... but then there is all that marshalling between processes that slows it down too
[09:42] <sonicrules1234> Well, so far I have parsing the .torrent file down
[09:42] <sonicrules1234> Now for connecting to the tracker
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[11:48] <@jacky> !seen calum
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[11:56] <sonicrules1234> Hey camerongray
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[12:01] <Guest61514> hey
[12:01] <Guest61514> grr
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[12:02] <camerongray> fixed
[12:02] <camerongray> just popping in - got stuff to do
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[12:34] <@Calum> hey
[12:36] <@jacky> howdy
[12:37] <@Calum> how goes it?
[12:37] <@jacky> fair to middlin'
[12:37] <@jacky> heheh
[12:37] <@jacky> are you on computer or phone?
[12:37] <@Calum> heh
[12:37] <@Calum> computer thanksfully
[12:37] <@Calum> sigh...apparently I can't spell though
[12:37] <@jacky> heh
[12:37] <@BC_Programming> ...
[12:37] <@BC_Programming> possum
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[12:52] <@BC_Programming> sonicrules, you missed all the excitement
[12:52] <@BC_Programming> it was so great
[12:52] <@BC_Programming> I said "possum"
[12:52] <@BC_Programming> and that was it
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[13:19] <@Calum> welcome Zuwer
[13:19] <Zuwer> Hey.
[13:20] <@jacky> Zuwer: Hello
[13:20] <Zuwer> Hey jacky also. :P
[13:20] <@jacky> :)
[13:48] <@jacky> bye, all
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[14:54] <sonicrules1234> possum
[14:54] <@BC_Programming> how dare you
[14:55] <@BC_Programming> or something
[14:55] <sonicrules1234> xD
[14:55] * sonicrules1234 can't wait till tomorrow :D
[14:56] <@BC_Programming> why what happens tomorrow
[14:57] <@BC_Programming> better not be oktoberfest
[14:57] <@BC_Programming> because that would mean I missed summer
[14:57] <sonicrules1234> Lol
[14:57] <sonicrules1234> Ubuntu 10.04 comes out tomorrow
[14:58] <@BC_Programming> don't you use mint?
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[15:12] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: I do
[15:12] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: But ubuntu comes out before mint
[15:12] <sonicrules1234> And...
[15:13] <sonicrules1234> X11 on the Ubuntu 9.10 and the equivilant mint
[15:13] <sonicrules1234> Didn't work with this lappy
[15:13] <sonicrules1234> So I'm stuck a version behind
[15:13] <@BC_Programming> why do you think 10.04 will work?
[15:13] <sonicrules1234> Because I tested the beta
[15:13] <sonicrules1234> And it works
[15:13] <@BC_Programming> ahh
[15:14] <@BC_Programming> ok
[15:14] <sonicrules1234> I hate having completely outdated everything >.<
[15:14] <sonicrules1234> So I will switch to Ubuntu until the next mint comes out
[15:15] <sonicrules1234> Also, this version of ubuntu is a lot prettier
[15:15] <sonicrules1234> They completely changed the color scheme :D
[15:15] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Do you have a wii?
[15:19] <@BC_Programming> no
[15:19] <sonicrules1234> Aww
[15:19] <@BC_Programming> SNES and gamecube
[15:19] <sonicrules1234> Hm
[15:20] <sonicrules1234> I want an N64
[15:20] <@BC_Programming> y
[15:20] <@BC_Programming> not why you want an n64, but why you want to know :P
[15:20] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Because I got the cpu character in brawl into a spot where I could continuously hurt him by just holding down a button, and he wouldn't be able to get out
[15:21] <@BC_Programming> that's nothing new
[15:21] <@BC_Programming> happens in Melee and the original one as well
[15:21] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Its harder to do in brawl
[15:21] <sonicrules1234> There's more flinching, and you get out of grabs after a certain amount of time
[15:21] <@BC_Programming> that happens in melee too
[15:21] <sonicrules1234> Not the grab thing
[15:21] <@BC_Programming> yes
[15:21] <@BC_Programming> I have that game
[15:22] <sonicrules1234> Hm, well I recall a time where Mewtwo and samus ganged up on me, and kept me stuck
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[15:22] <sonicrules1234> Mewtwo used the aura ball and samus held me in place
[15:23] <sonicrules1234> And I couldn't get out
[15:23] <sonicrules1234> You can't do that with lucario and samus in brawl
[15:23] <@BC_Programming> aura ball? is that the charge up b move?
[15:23] <sonicrules1234> Yes
[15:24] <@BC_Programming> heh, I could go into the other room and see
[15:24] <@BC_Programming> but I think I'll sit right here and use dolphin instead, heh
[15:24] <sonicrules1234> Lol
[15:24] <sonicrules1234> You have the rom?
[15:24] <@BC_Programming> ISO
[15:24] <@BC_Programming> yes
[15:24] <sonicrules1234> Ah
[15:24] <@BC_Programming> and I have brawl as well
[15:25] <@BC_Programming> brawl doesn't work in single player, and it crashes sometimes
[15:25] <sonicrules1234> I wish my mom would let me get the special dvd drive to rip the dvds
[15:26] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Usually in brawl, the character will get a certain amount of damage and then flinch out of it
[15:27] <sonicrules1234> I was quite lucky, and used kirby's repeated punch attack on snake's stage, and had snake up against the wall
[15:27] <sonicrules1234> Got him all the way to 999%
[15:27] <sonicrules1234> Then paused
[15:27] <sonicrules1234> xD
[15:28] <sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Did you know they put the original into the wii shop channel?
[15:28] <sonicrules1234> Now I don't have an excuse to use the emulator
[15:28] <sonicrules1234> :(
[15:29] <@BC_Programming> emulator is still better
[15:29] <sonicrules1234> Yeah
[15:29] <sonicrules1234> It is
[15:30] <@BC_Programming> how would I know about that though anyway.... I don't have a wii, remember :P
[15:31] <@BC_Programming> just beat twilight princess for the first time a few months ago... I'd have to say that's a fair successor to OOT.
[15:31] * sonicrules1234 <3 oot
[15:32] <@BC_Programming> the master quest one is... interesting
[15:32] <sonicrules1234> Hm
[15:32] <@BC_Programming> all the dungeons are different
[15:32] <sonicrules1234> I never got a chance to try that one out
[15:32] <sonicrules1234> Really?
[15:32] <@BC_Programming> yeah
[15:32] <@BC_Programming> the overworld is the same
[15:32] <sonicrules1234> Interesting
[15:32] <@BC_Programming> but the dungeons have a different design, usually it's harder
[15:32] <sonicrules1234> Dang
[15:33] <sonicrules1234> I thought it just made the enemys stronger
[15:33] <@BC_Programming> actually it's designed to be harder... much harder
[15:33] <sonicrules1234> Yeah
[15:33] <@BC_Programming> we're talking like, dinolfos and stalfos in the deku tree
[15:33] <sonicrules1234> :O
[15:33] <sonicrules1234> Dang
[15:33] <@BC_Programming> I still found it rather easy... but I got bored of it
[15:33] <sonicrules1234> >.<
[15:33] <@BC_Programming> my save state probably got overwritten by an oot save
[15:33] <sonicrules1234> Lol
[15:34] <@BC_Programming> the emulators think they are the same game so they have the same save slots and SRAM
[15:34] <sonicrules1234> >.<
[15:35] <sonicrules1234> They should just check the hash
[15:35] <@BC_Programming> now I'm curious
[15:35] <sonicrules1234> ?
[15:35] <@BC_Programming> to see if I overwrote it
[15:35] <sonicrules1234> LOL
[15:35] <@BC_Programming> they actually go by the game name inside the ROM
[15:37] <@BC_Programming> hmm, I overwrote it a while ago
[15:37] <@BC_Programming> and have since started a new game it would seem
[15:37] <@BC_Programming> I probably stopped playing because it's PAL and all weird and slow
[15:37] <sonicrules1234> Lol
[15:37] <sonicrules1234> Yeah
[15:37] <sonicrules1234> NTSC has higher frame rate
[15:38] <sonicrules1234> PAL has more horizontal lines
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